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[simple]

So do DH casings. With the added benefit of better sidewall protection.

60 TPI for DH vs 120 TPI for DD

Double down is more supple. My toilet paper needs to be supple!

[EWG]

For what it's worth, I kinda feel like if you are very good at picking and hitting lines, or you are very good at pointing the bike straight and deweighting and just floating through things, you have fewer sidewall/sideknob issues. It's when you are in the middle of those two styles (anywhere in the middle spectrum) that you see the most problems.

Or at least that's what I see. Of course influenced by weight and terrain as well.

[HAB]

So do DH casings. With the added benefit of better sidewall protection.

For sure, but CC + Exo is a bit lighter if you can get away with that, and I think does a better job with pinch flats (at the expense of sidewall protection, for sure). They've both got their place.

[toast2266]

For sure, but CC + Exo is a bit lighter if you can get away with that, and I think does a better job with pinch flats (at the expense of sidewall protection, for sure). They've both got their place.

True, both as to the weight, and the pinch flats. But I can run substantially lower pressures with a DH casing. Exo + CC means I still need 27-28 psi in the rear, otherwise the tire rolls in hard corners. DH casing I can run 24 psi without tire roll or pinch flat problems, and it's not much heavier.

And really, unless it's super rocky, I'm fine with a DD in the rear at 25-26 psi. Still lower pressure than Exo + CC, it weighs about the same, and it has better sidewall protection.

[nickwm21]

Different people see different things in Simple’s photos.

Some say - unridable! Side nobs are ripped off and disintegrating.

Some say - ahh I could get another 500 miles out of that.

People have different bike feel, ride differently, ride different locations. Some are more perfectionists, some are more frugal... Truely YMMV


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[HAB]

True, both as to the weight, and the pinch flats. But I can run substantially lower pressures with a DH casing. Exo + CC means I still need 27-28 psi in the rear, otherwise the tire rolls in hard corners. DH casing I can run 24 psi without tire roll or pinch flat problems, and it's not much heavier.

And really, unless it's super rocky, I'm fine with a DD in the rear at 25-26 psi. Still lower pressure than Exo + CC, it weighs about the same, and it has better sidewall protection.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of that.

Though that Michy tire that skaredshtles likes so much only comes in one casing (which I'd compare to Exo+) so in that particular case, it's pretty much insert or bust if you want to beef things up.

[skaredshtles]

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Though that Michy tire that skaredshtles likes so much only comes in one casing

Yeah. And don't get me started on that.

Fucking Michelin.

[jm2e]

Wife just asked for Minion 2.6s with EXO+ on 32mm Stans rims with CC for her DH build. Will be curious to see how it all holds up.

[El Chupacabra]

Oh god.

Someone get Chupacabra a real tire. What wheel size are we talking here?

27.5. I didn't expect great things from the Tomahawk, but I also didn't choose it. It came with a bike. So I'll use it until it's done, then I have a Minion SS that I want to try out.

[kidwoo]

I'll probably try it after I flat my next rear tire. 'Cause I'm dumb like that.

what pressure of the air do you place those at?

I'm definitely one of the OMG can't keep tires on types but with some of the burlier casings with real tire pressure I haven't really had a flat in a few years now. Thinking 900-1000g range tires, not dh casing because pedaling on those things sucks.

I run my rear tires at 30psi minimum for a 2.3-2.5 sized tire fwiw. I hope you're not one of the folks that thinks tubeless has a certain pressure that simply MUST be used and still can't figure out why they're tearing tires.

[skaredshtles]

what pressure of the air do you place those at?

I'm definitely one of the OMG can't keep tires on types but with some of the burlier casings with real tire pressure I haven't really had a flat in a few years now. Thinking 900-1000g range tires, not dh casing because pedaling on those things sucks.

I run my rear tires at 30psi minimum for a 2.3-2.5 sized tire fwiw. I hope you're not one of the folks that thinks tubeless has a certain pressure that simply MUST be used and still can't figure out why they're tearing tires.

I would usually run a Rock'R2 on the rear at around 28psi. The HR2 EXO I have on now I try to keep at 30psi, and I still get some rim-strikes on a few of the extra-pointy-rock trails around here. Front Rock'R2 I usually run 22-25psi.

[kidwoo]

I'd say just put more air in your tires. How much you weigh?

Those michelins are still pretty damp at higher pressures. 22psi front is just asking for trouble IMO.

[skaredshtles]

I'd say just put more air in your tires. How much you weigh?

Those michelins are still pretty damp at higher pressures. 22psi front is just asking for trouble IMO.

Around 190# geared up. The HR is just about done... so I shall take your recommendation under advisement. And you're probably right about the front tire - esp on the rocky shit.

[kidwoo]

You got like 25lbs on me. You're destroying tires because you have no air in them. If you really get all smashy smash, 35psi in the rear will still deform enough to grip for you. Yeah man, you weigh more than me and run lower pressures. it's gonna be a bad time

[skaredshtles]

You got like 25lbs on me. You're destroying tires because you have no air in them. If you really get all smashy smash, 35psi in the rear will still deform enough to grip for you. Yeah man, you weigh more than me and run lower pressures. it's gonna be a bad time

I suspect I don't ride nearly as hard as yourself.

That said - I shall consider bumping up rear pressure when riding those prickly trails...

I probably also need to come to terms with the fact that I'll probably never be 180lbs geared up again, and act appropriately.