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[XXX-er]

I would want to use a real tire patch anyway at some point, also i don't think glueless patches worked as well as a real tire patch , I gotta carry a tube anyway so I might as well use it to start

i carry a real patch kit in case the new tube doesnt work becuz i pinched it on instal or whatever gave me the flat put a hole in the new tube

at this point hopefully I remembered to put the valve stem at the tire logo so i can easily see where the thorn or nail is facked up the new tube

[skaredshtles]

I would want to use a real tire patch anyway at some point, also i don't think glueless patches worked as well as a real tire patch

They worked well enough to seal the leak in the tube, which is all I really wanted from a patch on a clapped-out old tube.

[XXX-er]

will the glue-less patch still be good after rolling around in a seat pouch for one and 1/2 years when I need them next season ?

not good enough for me but YMMV

[skaredshtles]

will the glue-less patch still be good after rolling around in a seat pouch for one and 1/2 years when I need them next season ?

My experience with them was they would last indefinitely... until you re-inflated the tube, then let the air back out (presumably when you went back to tubeless) - then the glueless patch would get weird and sometimes fail.

So they were definitely not as "permanent" a fix to a tube as a proper glue patch. But, if you don't give a fuck, glueless is/was way easier.

[XXX-er]

wow they ^^ sound almost as good as using a real tire patch kit !

must be why i almost used glueless tire patches

[singlesline]

The park ones come in a tiny plastic box which protects them from getting dirty/beaten up when they kick around for years waiting for use.

Pre tubeless I just kept that little box tucked in the folds of a rolled up tube. Idea being first flat you just swap tubes for speed. If you get a second flat, you now have 2 flat tubes so hopefully one of them is amenable to a glueless patch.
If you don't get a second flat, patch the old tube with a real patch when you get home.

Haven't used them in years though (I think there are 2 left in the box). Tubeless gives you 2+ more attempts before you would need them: 1) sealant works on its own, 2) plugs plugs plugs, 3) new tube...how many flats do you get before you finally need 4) the patch kit?

I've used duct tape to patch a road tube in a pinch. I imagine it would work even better in with low pressure MTB tubes. Also carried a scrap of a tyvek race number that could be used as a tire boot between tube and slashes/cuts--a folded dollar bill works here too.

[skaredshtles]

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Haven't used them in years though (I think there are 2 left in the box). Tubeless gives you 2+ more attempts before you would need them: 1) sealant works on its own, 2) plugs plugs plugs, 3) new tube...how many flats do you get before you finally need 4) the patch kit?

Yep. All this. And yeah - haven't used them in years. Not sure if I even *have* one of those little Park boxes in the pack any more.

[rideit]

except for racing I don't really get the Co2 thing, fuck it up and now you are really stuck with no pump

I have just started carrying co2 again in the event that I can’t seat the tubeless tire with a pump alone.

[skaredshtles]

I have just started carrying co2 again in the event that I can’t seat the tubeless tire with a pump alone.

YOU OWE ME!!

[rideit]

Oh, shit!

[Dee Hubbs]

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[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Can you use one of these style anti rattle clamps on that rack with its adapter?
https://www.amazon.com/MaxxHaul-5002...a-693753947949

These things work great.

I picked one up at Harbon Freight today. Worth a try. Only downside is that I can't pop the rack off the truck as quickly anymore.

[XXX-er]

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usualy they are fixable ime but sometmes not if its really big hole or on a seam

but take them home instead of hanging the dead tube in a tree

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Just run heavy tires. That's one way to not get flats hardly ever. Anything less than DD casing is just tempting fate IMO.

[Andeh]

Yeah, run appropriate casings and pressures. I've flatted once in like 7 years, and it was because I was running EXO+ in an area littered with sharp rocks.

I usually don't even bother carrying a pump on local trails. If I go somewhere with sharp rocks, I'll carry a pump with a CO2 (OneUp), tire plugs, a tire boot (in case the casing has a long slash - for use with tube), and a TuboLito tube (if the plugs don't work).