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  • Spencer123
    Registered User
    • Jul 2021
    • 198

    #8386
    Thank you all for the replies, super helpful! I can see why people in the tires thread or constantly asking about Maxxis equivilent options, I love the tires but they are becoming an expensive habit.

    [QUOTE=Dantheman;6652349]Yes. An oval radial auto patch will fix that right up.

    Since the damage isn't through to the inside, just a patch and cement right over the slice and let the patched area seat against the rim? The patch doesn't need wrapped around the edge of the tire to the inside correct?

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    • XXX-er
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 34296

      #8387
      That damage is way too close to the rim, if you wanted to still run the tire tubeless the patch or plug shouldn't touch the rim IMO
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      • toast2266
        over rotated
        • Dec 2007
        • 15074

        #8388
        Originally posted by Spencer123
        Since the damage isn't through to the inside, just a patch and cement right over the slice and let the patched area seat against the rim? The patch doesn't need wrapped around the edge of the tire to the inside correct?
        Any patch would need to be on the inside. You definitely don't want a patch interfering with the bead's contact with the rim. That's why I think a plug will work better - I think it's probably too close to the edge to get a patch to work.

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        • Spencer123
          Registered User
          • Jul 2021
          • 198

          #8389
          Gotcha. The tire seems to be failing to seal at the interface between the bead and the rim, not leaking air through the hole itself (as far as I can tell, but could be mistaken). The inside of the tire sidewall still looks pristine, but the bead won't seal even with sealent in in the damaged area. So it sounds like if I plug/patch it and it ends up being the bead itself that is jacked that is pretty much destined to be a back-up to use a tube with? Thanks again.

          Originally posted by toast2266
          Any patch would need to be on the inside. You definitely don't want a patch interfering with the bead's contact with the rim. That's why I think a plug will work better - I think it's probably too close to the edge to get a patch to work.

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          • Dantheman
            Registered User
            • Oct 2003
            • 19535

            #8390
            Originally posted by toast2266
            Any patch would need to be on the inside. You definitely don't want a patch interfering with the bead's contact with the rim. That's why I think a plug will work better - I think it's probably too close to the edge to get a patch to work.
            This is why I like the oval patches in this location. It's worked out well for me, but as always YMMV.

            Originally posted by Spencer123
            Gotcha. The tire seems to be failing to seal at the interface between the bead and the rim, not leaking air through the hole itself (as far as I can tell, but could be mistaken). The inside of the tire sidewall still looks pristine, but the bead won't seal even with sealent in in the damaged area. So it sounds like if I plug/patch it and it ends up being the bead itself that is jacked that is pretty much destined to be a back-up to use a tube with? Thanks again.
            Either the hole actually does go all the way through or you buggered the bead somehow. My guess is the latter, but hard to say based on pics alone. Tire is definitely toast if it's the bead.

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            • toast2266
              over rotated
              • Dec 2007
              • 15074

              #8391
              Originally posted by Dantheman
              Either the hole actually does go all the way through or you buggered the bead somehow. My guess is the latter, but hard to say based on pics alone. Tire is definitely toast if it's the bead.
              This. Although I would be impressed if the bead was buggered and the rim was not also buggered.

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              • Spencer123
                Registered User
                • Jul 2021
                • 198

                #8392
                Awesome. That makes sense. Appreciate it!

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                • Beaver
                  Vagitarian
                  • May 2002
                  • 3858

                  #8393
                  Do I need a different tool to remove a shitmano 12 speed Cassette or will the same one I use for HG cassettes work?
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                  • g_man80
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 785

                    #8394
                    Same tool

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                    • Falcon3
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2045

                      #8395
                      Ask the experts

                      Sizing help:

                      Current bike is 2017 Giant Trance in large (27.5). I’ve put a slacker headset and longer fork so my most accurate guess on geo is 439 reach with effective top tube of 628. I run a 35mm stem and this still feels a bit stretched out for me on climbs.

                      I’m looking hard at the super sale on Ripmo AFs. The Ibis site has me well into the large size just based on height (5’10”), but the measurements on medium are
                      Reach= 458 (19mm increase)
                      ETT= 603 (25mm decrease)

                      RAF stem is a 50mm which would make the butt-to-bars measure within 10mm of current and stretch out the pedal-to-bars horizontal measurement by 34mm.

                      I’m aware of the effect steeper seat tubes and slacker head angles will have on newer bikes, which is why I’m looking primarily at the seated ETT#. Just based on the numbers it seems like medium will still give me a longer reach for modern style but keep the top tube relatively manageable. Am i crazy to go medium here?

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                      • VTskibum
                        Not a skibum
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 2802

                        #8396
                        I don't think you're crazy to go Medium at 5'10", especially if you have a high ape index. My size Large 2020 stumpy has a 445 reach which is pretty short by today's standards. Giant Trance of same year was 462mm reach. So today's Mediums are generally a Large from 2 years ago. Plenty of debate on whether the LLS trend has gone a bit too far, PB even did a video comparison on this topic this week with a 6'3" guy between a current L and XL.

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                        • toast2266
                          over rotated
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 15074

                          #8397
                          Originally posted by Falcon3
                          Sizing help:

                          Current bike is 2017 Giant Trance in large (27.5). I’ve put a slacker headset and longer fork so my most accurate guess on geo is 439 reach with effective top tube of 628. I run a 35mm stem and this still feels a bit stretched out for me on climbs.

                          I’m looking hard at the super sale on Ripmo AFs. The Ibis site has me well into the large size just based on height (5’10”), but the measurements on medium are
                          Reach= 458 (19mm increase)
                          ETT= 603 (25mm decrease)

                          RAF stem is a 50mm which would make the butt-to-bars measure within 10mm of current and stretch out the pedal-to-bars horizontal measurement by 34mm.

                          I’m aware of the effect steeper seat tubes and slacker head angles will have on newer bikes, which is why I’m looking primarily at the seated ETT#. Just based on the numbers it seems like medium will still give me a longer reach for modern style but keep the top tube relatively manageable. Am i crazy to go medium here?
                          I'm about a 1/2" shorter than you, and I also waffle between mediums and larges. In an ideal world, I get along well with a 475 reach and a 620 ETT, although those exact numbers are surprisingly hard to find.

                          I think you'd be OK on the medium RAF, but if it were me, I'd probably go large, run a shorter stem, and slide the seat forward on the rails. For me, anything < 460 reach starts to feel kinda short these days. Not unrideable by any means (since we all rode bikes way shorter than that for decades), but I don't really feel like I'm getting the full benefit of modern geometry.

                          All that aside, I also take geo charts with a little bit of a grain of salt. How the bikes feel when I'm sitting on them doesn't always correlate with what the numbers say. Some bikes are a bit bigger than stated, some are a bit smaller. Ideally, you'd find a large RAF to do a parking lot ride on to verify sizing.

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                          • grskier
                            Um, yeah, that guy
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 12719

                            #8398
                            What Toast said...

                            With that 50 mm stem you have an easy 15mm to play with at the front of the cockpit and you can swap out bars too.

                            But at your height, I don't think you have a wrong answer... which just always makes it harder lol.
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                            • Falcon3
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2045

                              #8399
                              Ask the experts

                              Originally posted by grskier
                              What Toast said...

                              With that 50 mm stem you have an easy 15mm to play with at the front of the cockpit and you can swap out bars too.

                              But at your height, I don't think you have a wrong answer... which just always makes it harder lol.
                              Thanks all, Jenson has the RAF in GX coil build for $3100, doesn’t charge me sales tax, and comes with a $250 gift card. But they only have mediums in stock. I asked around locally to try to find one to sit on but no luck.

                              Now I just need to convince myself going for this incremental improvement of geometry/longer dropper/29 vs 27.5 is worth it compared to riding my bike (which is going to need consumables and a serious tune soon) and saving up for the $7k carbon beast in another couple years.

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                              • Beaver
                                Vagitarian
                                • May 2002
                                • 3858

                                #8400
                                Fuck the what? Pulled off my 12 speed shimano cassette, my free hub is HG. I didn't think hg 12 speed was a thing.
                                You are what you eat.
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