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  • jamal
    how did this get here
    • Feb 2012
    • 2188

    #8311
    Yeah I got an impala after I broke my giro montaro last year and the lack of being able to stick sunglasses in there bugs me. Otherwise I generally like how it fits and feels.

    The Jackal I think does have a spot for glasses and is a little lighter and nicer and lazer is going from mips to "kineticore" which is a bunch of little nubs molded into the foam as a crumple zone instead of an extra sliding layer. So yeah for me if I get a new mtb helmet it's between the jackal, or a poc, or a bontrager blaze now that we have trek although it seems like the wavecel stuff might make getting glasses in there harder.

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    • summit
      *NOT* an expert
      • Oct 2003
      • 23189

      #8312
      Originally posted by VTskibum
      What trail helmet am I?

      Good coverage and venting for humid east coast
      Visor, preferably adjustable I think
      Sun glass storage - why isn’t this a thing for MTB helmets!?!?
      MIPS or equivalent

      Options considering are;

      Lazer impala or jackal
      Spec tactic (non adjustable visor) or ambush?
      POC tectal, kortal, axion
      Smith forefront?

      What else should I consider?

      Currently have a Lazer Impala that I like and doesn’t look damaged, but major crash means replacement JIC. Only thing I don’t like about it is no good sunglass storage, which is a ridiculous lacking design flaw in most trail helmets.


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      In no particular order,

      Bell Super Air R Spherical
      Giro Manifest Spherical
      Giro Merit Spherical
      Leatt MTB AllMtn 4.0

      or a convertible FF like Leatt Enduro 4.0 (I have a NIB if you fit size M) or Bell Super DH Spherical. The Super Air R you can also add a chinpiece to.

      I ride a Super DH without the chin for trail. My Leatt Gravity 8.0 just completely saved my noggin and got replaced with the same.
      Originally posted by blurred
      skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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      • VTskibum
        Not a skibum
        • Aug 2002
        • 2799

        #8313
        Thx for reco’s leaning POC or Lazer Jackal given good results w Impala. Will have to check the TLD and some of the Bell/Giro options which i haven’t owned in quite a while.


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        • toast2266
          over rotated
          • Dec 2007
          • 15037

          #8314
          Originally posted by VTskibum
          What trail helmet am I?

          Good coverage and venting for humid east coast
          Visor, preferably adjustable I think
          Sun glass storage - why isn’t this a thing for MTB helmets!?!?
          MIPS or equivalent

          Options considering are;

          Lazer impala or jackal
          Spec tactic (non adjustable visor) or ambush?
          POC tectal, kortal, axion
          Smith forefront?

          What else should I consider?

          Currently have a Lazer Impala that I like and doesn’t look damaged, but major crash means replacement JIC. Only thing I don’t like about it is no good sunglass storage, which is a ridiculous lacking design flaw in most trail helmets.


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          Get the one that fits.

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          • climberevan
            one of those sickos
            • Oct 2005
            • 3357

            #8315
            Perhaps some of you will appreciate this bit of information. The band clamp from my spare XT shifter fits nicely on the spare SLX I-Spec shifter (which I'm going to sell). I suspected it would, but it's nice to confirm and could open some options in these times.Click image for larger version

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            ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

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            • Whiteroom_Guardian
              ____________________
              • May 2008
              • 17346

              #8316
              I fucking love my Smith Forefront 2. Fits me a lot more comfortably than the TLD A2 I used to have. Both MIPS. Biggest downside is no sunglass storage. WTF? Intentional since Smith makes sunglasses and wants you to drop them and break them and need to buy new shades?
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              www.freeridesystems.com

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              • jm2e
                The Wolf
                • Apr 2008
                • 7215

                #8317
                Originally posted by summit
                I ride a Super DH without the chin for trail. My Leatt Gravity 8.0 just completely saved my noggin and got replaced with the same.
                What’s the difference between the Gravity 8.0 and the Gravity 4.0?
                And what’s the difference between the Gravity 4.0 and the Enduro 4.0?


                Originally posted by toast2266
                Get the one that fits.
                This, x1000

                And in the “Things that annoy me” category: finding a place to try on multiple FF helmets. It’s one of those things I really need to put on before I pull the trigger. And a real PITA to return by mail.


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                However many are in a shit ton.

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                • summit
                  *NOT* an expert
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 23189

                  #8318
                  Originally posted by jm2e
                  What’s the difference between the Gravity 8.0 and the Gravity 4.0?
                  And what’s the difference between the Gravity 4.0 and the Enduro 4.0?
                  Gravity 8 is basically their Moto 8.5/9.5 in a composite build, just slightly lighter (competitively light for DH helmet) but same design as the moto that meets DOT, FIM and the new ECE 22.06 standards. It has really good venting and 4 different foam density levels plus 11 shear/elastic bumpers (360 turbines, manage low speed impact and shear force mitigation (MIPS equivalent)). I ordered my replacement from a Euro shop because Leatt was out of mediums. This might be the safest DH helmet on the market, and last year they were DOT certing it, but decided not to pay for DOT this year. You could also just order a Moto 8.5 or 9.5 for basically the same price/weight. Comes with a nifty visor extender for rainy days!

                  I crashed overshooting the landing of this feature landing off screen left hard and fast, hit on the right side of the helmet:
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                  No loss of consciousness and minimal concussion symptoms lasting only an hour or two in a high energy crash that broke my scapula through the armor (very hard to do).

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                  Leatt Gravity 4.0 and Enduro 4.0 are DH rated with 2 foam densities plus the 360 turbines. Enduro 4 is far better vented, little lighter weight, and is a convertible FF so it can be your trail helmet while the Gravity 4 is cheaper if you don't need the removable chinbar.
                  Originally posted by blurred
                  skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                  • skaredshtles
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 15319

                    #8319
                    Originally posted by toast2266
                    Get the one that fits.
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                    • VTskibum
                      Not a skibum
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 2799

                      #8320
                      Originally posted by toast2266
                      Get the one that fits.
                      Yep, hence my narrowed list of things I could try/buy locally. Doubtful I’m seeing a Leat helmet in person around here.

                      Leaning Lazer given I have a few around here that fit and should be able to try one on.


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                      • XXX-er
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 34296

                        #8321
                        wow its almost like you have to buy the stuff in person without a discount code?

                        but seriously the best places to try gear is where people do the sport

                        whistler during the olympics was awesume for ski gear

                        for bike stuff the north shore in vancover is the birthplace of freeride and lotsa gear eh
                        Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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                        • summit
                          *NOT* an expert
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 23189

                          #8322
                          Fit is important, but fit can be found in many helmets and there are other important factors. I order the helmets I might want and return the ones I don't so that I'm not limited by what the LBS decides looks cool.

                          The LBS doesn't stock super safety oriented brands like Leatt, Kali, and 6D. They do have brands like Giro and Bell, but not necessarily the models/sizes I want, especially these days.

                          If I limited myself to the LBS I wouldn't have been wearing the helmet that saved my brain.
                          Originally posted by blurred
                          skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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                          • Falcon3
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2045

                            #8323
                            Originally posted by Dumbest Known Time
                            Prana Brion. Casual looking material, gusseted crotch and decently durable. Looks like they're 25% off right now
                            I’d prefer your shorts 100% off

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                            • BigHerm
                              Experienced
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 559

                              #8324
                              Originally posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
                              I fucking love my Smith Forefront 2. Fits me a lot more comfortably than the TLD A2 I used to have. Both MIPS. Biggest downside is no sunglass storage. WTF? Intentional since Smith makes sunglasses and wants you to drop them and break them and need to buy new shades?
                              The Forefront 2 has sunglass storage. You put the visor to the highest position and your glasses slide in (upside down) to the channel. Works well for goggle storage too (when you go full enduro).
                              "Just send it you pussy."

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                              • toast2266
                                over rotated
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 15037

                                #8325
                                Originally posted by summit
                                Fit is important, but fit can be found in many helmets and there are other important factors. I order the helmets I might want and return the ones I don't so that I'm not limited by what the LBS decides looks cool.

                                The LBS doesn't stock super safety oriented brands like Leatt, Kali, and 6D. They do have brands like Giro and Bell, but not necessarily the models/sizes I want, especially these days.

                                If I limited myself to the LBS I wouldn't have been wearing the helmet that saved my brain.
                                I would argue that a perfect fit does more for safety than fancy plastic widgets in the helmet. If the one that fits you perfect has fancy widgets, then that's even better.

                                Even within a given brand, fit will vary from model to model.

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