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I knew that assholes are evenly distributed. It was a rhetorical question. The speed limit on the rails to trail is 15 mph and is broken by every Lance wannabe Mamil on the ride down . Fucking cyclists.
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So do we still have to yield the right of way to a climbing rider if they are e-biking?Comment
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As long as they don't negatively affect trail access then they're fine IMO. Unfortunately in BC they'd probably negatively affect trail access
Wooley buy one from somewhere you can get spare parts. They're still prone to breakdowns and dead batteries; power transfers etc.Comment
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Last Month's MMWD board meeting minutes had three speakers slamming the use of Ebikes on Mt. Tam and other MMWD trails. The board meeting wasn't even about that, this was just in the open public comments. Every month this spring and summer I have seen more and more ebikes on the mountain and the rangers seem to be turning a blind eye even though their own trail use regs ban them. Much more interested in catching people riding single track illegally, think internet enabled and instantaneous alerts on hidden game cameras. I think the argument is not whether people have the right to ride these but riding them in semi to crowded multi use areas is going to lead to a lot of user conflicts in the near future. Many of these areas already have or have had user conflict issues and this new tech seems to me to have the ability to set back any progress made on that front. So far I have only seen old, rich dudes and chicks riding them but it is only a matter of time until mom and dad buy their son or daughter on the High school MTB team one of these and watch out. They can haul ass on fire roads up or down and it is starting to piss people off now.Comment
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Um, its called wanting to get as much fun out of the day as you can. Same reason why you ride ski lifts instead of bootpacking/skinning up, same reason why most unsanctioned trails are shuttle spots instead of pedal spots, same reason why you drive a mini excavator on non-motorized trails to do the big earthwork for new trails. I would love to get in 5000' days on my bike without having to be in pro level shape and/or ride a XC whippet. You just sound bitter when you say that because it is hard on you, everyone should have to suffer too.
And the too old/broken excuse isnt really an excuse. Its reality for many folks over the age of 50. Lifelong athletes with blown up joints, or heart issues, or just not enough time to commit to maintaining aerobic/anaerobic capacity they would need. Heck its reality for many folks below the age of 50. You should be thankful you have the ability to still get after it under your own power and on a cheap bike.Comment
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Fuck, can we stop arguing over E-bikes and let's actually talk about who is making some good ones? You don't approve of people riding em on trails, fine, STFU you made your point. I feel like some parts of the country will have better access for these than others.
Most of the ones that come up on a google search are more geared toward commuting/grocery getters. What are some of the faster/longer range/ better built brands out there for actual trail riding?Comment
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Just to play devil’s advocate: why does everyone get to participate?
Along the lines of the outcry when they put in the Kachina Peak lift at Taos or Mittersill at Cannon; some thought (and still think) it was sacrilegious....
Maybe you don’t get to ride non-motorized trails if you can’t ride a non motorized vehicle. You’ll just have to find your fun somewhere else.
Sent from my iPad using TGR ForumsIt makes perfect sense...until you think about it.
I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.Comment
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If i was you i would check out HaiBike, Specialized, and any of the other big MTB brands. HaiBike is really trying to get into the market by signing some pro MTbers, and most popular MTB brands now have an E-bike in their collection.
You should probably only ride your bike on fully legal sanctioned trails then... otherwise you risk being awfully hypocritical
rules are rules, right? hahaComment
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This is an interesting comparison. Riding lifts costs money, and the land management is (sometimes) different. Would everyone be okay with e-bikes being allowed at trail networks that cost money*? What if you had to buy a $15 day pass to Duthie or Galbraith or your other favorite trail network that resembles a pedal-only bike park, and that money went to trail maintenance? I think the only day-ticket no-lift trail network I've been to is the Kingdom Trails in VT; do they allow e-bikes there? Is that a good model? Can I complete a sentence without a question mark?
*You pay for all legal trails with things like parking passes and so forth. I would much rather buy a Discover Pass + Interagency Pass once a year and not worry about private trail networks....kittyhump.com - Fund Max, Cat Appreciation, BikeComment
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