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  • evdog
    DFL > DNF > DNS
    • May 2012
    • 5585

    #4216
    Oh, and.....

    Second dropper lever that's bent on me in the last couple months.

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    • Boissal
      "touring guy"
      • Jan 2009
      • 4429

      #4217
      Stan's used to come with the syringe a long time ago, I've never had an issue with it. It screws onto the valve pretty well once the core is removed even though I've mashed the plastic threads into oblivion by now. I use that option if I'm refilling sealant, if I'm installing a tire I just remove the little screw adapter thing and just syringe directly into the wheel. I rinse the syringe and tube with water and it's good to go the next time. Only downside of that syringe is that it maxes at 2 oz of fluid and I usually put a bit more in my tires.

      I've had syringes lose the rubber head of their piston a few times, funny thing is that it usually happens with seemingly higher quality disposable syringes I extract from the lab. They do not like dealing with any type of oil, be it mineral oil or fork oil. I think it makes the rubber swell up and stick. Interestingly enough they tolerate DOT fluid quite well but you're pretty much guaranteed a squirter if they're used more than once with oil.

      Originally posted by evdog
      Oh, and.....

      Second dropper lever that's bent on me in the last couple months.
      I just moved a WolfTooth lever between bikes and the second it came off the bars it was clear it had taken a massive beating. I was confused then remembered I mashed it into a rock this spring and broke a part (plastic bushing it rotates on) but had a spare on me. I fixed it trailside, it actuated fine, I never thought about it again. The lever must have bent 30 degrees and rotated the same amount so I didn't notice until I took a close look. Somehow it still works fine and I'm not going to snap it while trying to straighten it out...
      The lesson to me is that you should have everything on the bars barely tight enough to stay in place under normal use. That way it can happily rotate out of the way instead of breaking when you inevitably dump the bike. It took me a while and some good $$ to learn that!
      "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

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      • jackstraw
        Irie
        • Dec 2002
        • 9753

        #4218
        I don't seem to have stans issues and I'm not sure why I don't?

        The only time I make a mess is trying to transfer used stans from a dead tire to the new one. I saw a vid of a guy who uses a...well I already forgot wtf!...but essentially a Dixie cup to scoop the old out and dump into the new tire.

        For new I either do what others have said, or I seal the whole tire and use the little refill bottle that fits tight over the valve, remove core and just squirt it in.

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        • El Chupacabra
          pillowpants
          • Sep 2004
          • 21958

          #4219
          I've been using the syringe that comes with Truckerco sealant -- works fine, no clogs. I rinse it out with a hose after each use and let it dry before putting it away.
          https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VYVYYPB...ckerco+sealant
          Originally posted by powder11
          if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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          • evdog
            DFL > DNF > DNS
            • May 2012
            • 5585

            #4220
            Originally posted by Boissal
            I just moved a WolfTooth lever between bikes and the second it came off the bars it was clear it had taken a massive beating. I was confused then remembered I mashed it into a rock this spring and broke a part (plastic bushing it rotates on) but had a spare on me. I fixed it trailside, it actuated fine, I never thought about it again. The lever must have bent 30 degrees and rotated the same amount so I didn't notice until I took a close look. Somehow it still works fine and I'm not going to snap it while trying to straighten it out...
            The lesson to me is that you should have everything on the bars barely tight enough to stay in place under normal use. That way it can happily rotate out of the way instead of breaking when you inevitably dump the bike. It took me a while and some good $$ to learn that!
            Yup, always keep bar controls just tight enough. In this case it got hit at just such an angle it bent rather than rotate. I was actually impressed with how stout it was, the lever was still working fine aside from cable starting to fray. But wanted to replace it to not tempt fate. I was able to bend it back almost straight so I'll keep it as a spare.

            The previous lever had a small plastic edge break where it mounts to the SRAM bar clamp, not even sure how that happened but wasn't a crash.

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            • evdog
              DFL > DNF > DNS
              • May 2012
              • 5585

              #4221
              Speaking of messes, anyone ever tried using Mil Kit valve stems? https://milkitbike.com/pages/faq

              I did a few years ago, seemed promising with a rubber valve that would prevent sealant from gumming up the valve cores, and a claim that you could check and re-fill sealant without letting air out of the tire. I can tell you the latter claim was bullshit. I let out half the air to be safe, then inserted the syringe tube through the valve stem and past the seal. Soon as I did that the air pressure blew the plunger back right out of the syringe along with all the sealant, half on me and half over my truck and garage wall. That was by far the worst mess I've ever dealt with. Worked great when all the air was out of the tire though, so it wasn't a total loss. But you couldn't use the little stans bottles with it so it was necessary to carry their plunger with you all the time.

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              • joetron
                Registered User
                • Jun 2008
                • 3679

                #4222
                Sweet Jesus, you cheap bastards that scour Ali Express to save $10 and get shit shipped from 1/2way around the world haven’t quite figured out that the 2oz Stan’s bottle is the ultimate sealant injector. This thread is insane.


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                • Dee Hubbs
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 5147

                  #4223
                  Originally posted by joetron
                  Sweet Jesus, you cheap bastards haven’t quite figured out that the 2oz Stan’s bottle is the ultimate sealant injector. This thread is insane.
                  I fill up the 2oz bottle from the big bottle, and squeeze the 2oz into the valve stem.
                  Easy.

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                  • joetron
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3679

                    #4224
                    Originally posted by Dee Hubbs
                    I fill up the 2oz bottle from the big bottle, and squeeze the 2oz into the valve stem.
                    Easy.
                    EXACTLY!


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                    • ddocky
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 21

                      #4225
                      I spent three hours trying to replace two 32mm tires.

                      I always try to seat a tire before adding sealant. One would seat with compressed air, then unseat as soon as the air came out, giving me no way to inject the sealant. I put soap on the bead. No luck. I tried mounting first with a tube, no luck. Finally thought that one through and put in the sealant before seating.

                      The other would not seat even though the new tire is identical to the old one. I put a tube in, got one side seated but the other would not. I put soap on the bead. Mess but no luck. I tried a tube overnight. Still one side would not seat. I put sealant in and it still would not seat but did drip everywhere. Finally, I drained the sealant, took the tire off, cleaned it up, put on another layer of rim tape and it took first try.

                      There are lots of suggestions for mounting tubeless but no flow chart to know what order to try.

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                      • mmmm...pow!
                        Safety Inspector
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1562

                        #4226
                        Originally posted by joetron
                        Sweet Jesus, you cheap bastards that scour Ali Express to save $10 and get shit shipped from 1/2way around the world haven’t quite figured out that the 2oz Stan’s bottle is the ultimate sealant injector. This thread is insane.


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                        It even comes with free sealant!
                        “I really lack the words to compliment myself today.” - Alberto Tomba

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                        • jamal
                          how did this get here
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 2189

                          #4227
                          Also you can buy syringes and tubing for like $2 at a ranch supply store in the horse drugs section. Handy for suspension service too.

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                          • Bunion 2020
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 24305

                            #4228
                            ^^^ I endorse this message.
                            I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

                            "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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                            • jackstraw
                              Irie
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 9753

                              #4229
                              Originally posted by Dee Hubbs
                              I fill up the 2oz bottle from the big bottle, and squeeze the 2oz into the valve stem.
                              Easy.
                              Yes, but admittedly that transfer is where I spill sometimes. [emoji2]

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                              • nickwm21
                                ahhhh!
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 6493

                                #4230
                                Originally posted by jackstraw
                                I don't seem to have stans issues and I'm not sure why I don't?

                                The only time I make a mess is trying to transfer used stans from a dead tire to the new one. I saw a vid of a guy who uses a...well I already forgot wtf!...but essentially a Dixie cup to scoop the old out and dump into the new tire.

                                For new I either do what others have said, or I seal the whole tire and use the little refill bottle that fits tight over the valve, remove core and just squirt it in.
                                TIL someone spend the time to “transfer” 78 cents of Stan’s…


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