Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[Dantheman]

That it's somehow already October 5 and riding season will be over way too soon.

[Spats]

Spats, most of that shit was from frame and fork manufacturers. Not sure about freehub bodies…

My impression from back in the day was that 15mm came about because Shimano didn't want to make 20mm hubs, because they didn't invent the idea. I still have a 100mm Manitou XC fork from the pre-15mm days that's insanely stiff, even with skinny 32mm stanchions...because it has 20mm TA lowers. (That option disappeared quickly.)

You're probably right on forks, though...Shimano doesn't really do stems or headsets.

[evdog]

That it's somehow already October 5 and riding season will be over way too soon.

We are just starting prime riding season in the Southwest, you should come down and visit!

[evdog]

I should try going back to clipless. Rode them from 1995-ish until 2016(?) and switched to flats. Clipless shoes just collecting dust in the garage since then...

I drank the coolaid and "upgraded" to clipless soon after I started riding mid 90s since it seemed that's what you had to use to be a serious rider. Clipless was awesome in places that had steep techy granite climbs. You just couldn't power up stuff like that on flats like you can on clipless. But the more I got into steep janky descents, jumps and skinnies on the shore and Whistler the sketchier clipless got. Good luck getting clipped back in if you need to dab going down some nasty chute. Aside from singlespeed I've never gone back to clipless. I'd benefit a lot more by just getting in better shape than I'd gain in efficiency using clipless. Flats with trail runners have been the ticket for backcountry rides with lots of hike a bike.

[jm2e]

Riding in Italy was amazing, but on rental bikes with tubes. Made it through thousands of feet of steep chunky rocks. Wife got a flat one day with hours of tech trail still to be ridden. I pulled out the trusty Tubolito. Decided to keep pressures reasonable so the ride would still be fun.
Made it 100 meters before pinch flatting the Tubolito.
Stuck in another Tubolito (only other spare) and added a ton of extra pressure and she bounced around like popcorn for the rest of the day.
Tubolito Fail. Okay for tiptoeing out. Not good for enjoying the rest of your ride.



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[Dee Hubbs]

Riding in Italy was amazing, but on rental bikes with tubes. Made it through thousands of feet of steep chunky rocks. Wife got a flat one day with hours of tech trail still to be ridden. I pulled out the trusty Tubolito. Decided to keep pressures reasonable so the ride would still be fun.
Made it 100 meters before pinch flatting the Tubolito.
Stuck in another Tubolito (only other spare) and added a ton of extra pressure and she bounced around like popcorn for the rest of the day.
Tubolito Fail. Okay for tiptoeing out. Not good for enjoying the rest of your ride.

Do you have any Tubolito patches? I dont carry them for daily rides, but long trips I'll pack them.
PM me if you want me to put a 4 pack of patches in the mail for you.

[HankScorpio]

I had a squishy rear brake and did my usual bleed. The lever still feels squishy after and now the pads are suddenly contaminated. Me (being a dumbass) assumes I contaminated the pads by touching them with my mineral oily fingers. So I bleed it again and put a new set of pads. The brake still squishy and now I've managed to contaminate another set of (brand fucking new) pads.

I tuck my tail between my legs and bring it to the shop. Turns out the master cylinder is shot and 2 pistons are leaking. $210 for a whole new XT 4 piston rear brake plus whatever insane labor charge they'll get me for. Oh and now and I have zero sets of back up brake pads.

Goddamnit.

[Falcon3]

I had a squishy rear brake and did my usual bleed. The lever still feels squishy after and now the pads are suddenly contaminated. Me (being a dumbass) assumes I contaminated the pads by touching them with my mineral oily fingers. So I bleed it again and put a new set of pads. The brake still squishy and now I've managed to contaminate another set of (brand fucking new) pads.

I tuck my tail between my legs and bring it to the shop. Turns out the master cylinder is shot and 2 pistons are leaking. $210 for a whole new XT 4 piston rear brake plus whatever insane labor charge they'll get me for. Oh and now and I have zero sets of back up brake pads.

Goddamnit.

Bummer. Been there, I stripped a bleed screw AND pushed the piston in wonky once so I destroyed both the lever and caliper in one go trying to fix the first mistake. Expensive oops suck.

At least you can save a few bucks on pads, Summit is blowing out MTX Red for Shimano- $23.

https://www.summitbicycles.com/product/mtx-braking-red-label-race-brake-pads-57889.htm

[mtnjam]

...maybe we should stick together and FIGHT FOR TRAIL ACCESS ,instead of always losing to the Sierra Club, HOHAs, and rich equestrians because we're too busy bickering amongst ourselves and the "advocacy" organizations compromise away our position before we even start.

This to a T. Myself and anyone who lives near the Boise foothills knows this is an uphill (no pun intended) battle. SWIMBA arguing with Ridge to Rivers, the FS and the BLM. Sure glad I didn't give SWIMBA much of my money for membership fees over all these years. Yes, I have a problem with SWIMBA.

[Falcon3]

Why do 200/203 one-piece rotors even exist? Any tiny amount of heat on them or even changing weather temps and you get the interminable “ting ting ting” every revolution. Truing them doesn’t help because they’ll just warp again with any temp differential.

Cant wait for my RT86 to ship from back order. Probably 2024 at this point though

[Dee Hubbs]

I thought this was a conversation about 20mm increments in Rotors:
140 mm
160 mm
180 mm
200 mm
203 (WTF?)
220 mm
223 mm (WTF? )
246 mm (holy WTF?)

MTB “standards”

[J. Barron DeJong]

I thought this was a conversation about 20mm increments in Rotors:
140 mm
160 mm
180 mm
200 mm
203 (WTF?)
220 mm
223 mm (WTF? )
246 mm (holy WTF?)

MTB “standards”

I’d blame it on USA not going metric, but SRAM uses 200 and Shimano uses 203, so who the fuck knows?

[toast2266]

Yeah, I 100% blame that one on shimano. Maybe 203 rotors pair better with 15mm axles. Twats.

Anyways, I don't have any real problem getting my 200's to not rub in codes. Maguras are a little more finicky, but that's mostly the caliper design, not the rotors.

[rideit]

Hunh, I wonder hy there were never 143, 163, and 183 rotors. I have an Avid 185, though.

[HAB]

Yeah, I 100% blame that one on shimano. Maybe 203 rotors pair better with 15mm axles. Twats.

Anyways, I don't have any real problem getting my 200's to not rub in codes. Maguras are a little more finicky, but that's mostly the caliper design, not the rotors.

I don't remember who started it, but Hayes, Shimano, Avid, and others were all doing 203s long before 15mm axles were a thing, and before Sram bought Avid and made 200mm rotors a thing. That was mayby the more sensible way to go, but it also probably didn't really matter in the days of IS frames and forks. And as we've found with PM and 220+ rotors, +20 adapters aren't that dialed with a non-radial brake mount standard.