Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[toast2266]

https://helenair.com/news/local/grou...ec86528c1.html

Usual suspects have something to say about mountain biking.

I liked this part:

They note the National Environmental Policy Act is a charter for protection of the environment and it requires agencies to take a “hard look” at the environmental impacts of their actions.

Because obviously bikes are an environmental catastrophe, but horses are great.

Maybe if we all rode 1000 lb bikes that had little noxious weed seed dispensers under the saddle, the plaintiffs would be ok with it.

[Bunion 2020]

I liked this part:



Because obviously bikes are an environmental catastrophe, but horses are great.

Maybe if we all rode 1000 lb bikes that had little noxious weed seed dispensers under the saddle, the plaintiffs would be ok with it.

Tradition pardner, giddyupp!

[Falcon3]

Tradition pardner, giddyupp!

Bury a penny farthing in the dirt then excavate it and claim historic use.

[jm2e]

Ironically, the anti mtb arguments from equestrians and hikers sound remarkably similar to the anti Ebike arguments from mountain bikers.


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[panchosdad]

My Fav.

How do earbuds prevent you from seeing?

My experience is that earbud wearing arses are generally pretty unaware of their surroundings. Not that one causes the other, but they seem to go hand in hand.

[teledad]

Speaking of fasteners, what’s with 1up racks using imperial sized allen bolts? Not just for the main installation bolts (which they provide the wrench for), but also for all the other ones that bind up over time. I know, made in the USA but how about considering what their customers will have available? I’ve got 5-6 full sets of metric wrenches around but I have to find a 3/16”?

[rideit]

Personally, I would replace all of the bolts.
With Ti.

[EWG]

Personally, I would replace all of the bolts.
With Ti.

Nope. Anodized colored aluminum. Purple.

[rideit]

[evdog]

When the “Alliance for the Wild Rockies” is filing suit on behalf of suburban homeowners’ recreation preference, I think it’s a pretty clear sign they’ve strayed from whatever their mission is.

Who are they an alliance of? HOHA's and equestrians?

[Canada1]

We are our own worse enemy

When the “Alliance for the Wild Rockies” is filing suit on behalf of suburban homeowners’ recreation preference, I think it’s a pretty clear sign they’ve strayed from whatever their mission is.

Yes, it’s definitely older equestrians who are imagining mountain bikers riding 30 mph everywhere, and who don’t have any sense of responsibility for their skittish 1-ton prey animals. I participated in a working group that took us from the draft to a new proposal that’s essentially what the final plan is. I don’t have any trouble imagining some people continuing to undermine that.

Have you ever been hit by a descending rider? It happens to me every year. Freakin last year it was two guys from the same NICA team on different days. While I've never been creamed, I have had numerous encounters where guys finish their skid touching me or with me having to bail. It's changed how I act when climbing and made me super aware coming around blind spots on trails. That shit scares me on the bike. On a horse it would be terrifying. So, I hate horse crap and I hate the way they damage trails in the spring, or after any rain. But, we could be better about managing our image.

[californiagrown]

Have you ever been hit by a descending rider? It happens to me every year. Freakin last year it was two guys from the same NICA team on different days. While I've never been creamed, I have had numerous encounters where guys finish their skid touching me or with me having to bail. It's changed how I act when climbing and made me super aware coming around blind spots on trails. That shit scares me on the bike. On a horse it would be terrifying. So, I hate horse crap and I hate the way they damage trails in the spring, or after any rain. But, we could be better about managing our image.

I find that not riding in the main descending line around blind corners works really well to avoid conflict.

IDK if this is you or not, but there are folks who live and die by "ascending rider has the right of way" instead of using common sense to try and share the trail and avoid conflict. Its these folks who seem to have the lion's share of bad encounters with descending riders, and seem to be looking to find things to grumble about during their recreation. they are also the same people who drive the speed limit in the left lane, because they legally can.

[toast2266]

Have you ever been hit by a descending rider? It happens to me every year. Freakin last year it was two guys from the same NICA team on different days. While I've never been creamed, I have had numerous encounters where guys finish their skid touching me or with me having to bail. It's changed how I act when climbing and made me super aware coming around blind spots on trails. That shit scares me on the bike. On a horse it would be terrifying. So, I hate horse crap and I hate the way they damage trails in the spring, or after any rain. But, we could be better about managing our image.

I've never, in 30-ish years, been hit by a descending rider. If it's happening to you every year, I question the trails you're riding up.

And if horses are on popular multi use trails, they're going to need to exercise some situational awareness as well.

[Canada1]

I've never, in 30-ish years, been hit by a descending rider. If it's happening to you every year, I question the trails you're riding up.

And if horses are on popular multi use trails, they're going to need to exercise some situational awareness as well.

I know it has a lot to do with where I am. Huge numbers and a lot of entitlement. My daughter had to bail from a guy descending Armstrong, a climbing only trail three weeks ago. He then bitched at her for making him slow down.
Regardless of my gaperdom, I still say, we have our contingent of entitled dumbasses. Even if I am one of them.

[Falcon3]

I could be wrong, but doesn’t that article say they’re building 35 miles of new MTB-only trails? If I were a horse person I’d be happy mtb-ers would have their own trails and probably stay off the multi-use trails.

Or maybe the horse folks could petition to build some horse-only trails. But oh wait, they rarely do their own trail work and prefer to complain and try to ban other people from “their” land. Oh and enjoy riding on the mtb-only trails when they’re soft.