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  • beer30
    Registered User
    • Nov 2008
    • 1490

    #16
    Just wanna say I am also a big fan of the blowtorch and bumps with a lot of hackle

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    • skifishbum
      Irrie Rasta Dog Copilot
      • Apr 2005
      • 13270

      #17
      Originally posted by BobMc




      Although, usually what I’m throwing is whatever Lumpy or SFB ties on for me. Heh.
      whatevers i tie on im gonna recomend you present it in a manner that gits eaten
      and
      "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
      "I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
      "THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
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      • Bunion 2020
        Registered User
        • Dec 2004
        • 24133

        #18
        How about a hopper/dropper?
        I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

        "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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        • TBS
          Bearded Sweater Model
          • Oct 2004
          • 16968

          #19
          I’m generally fishing the Metolius or Upper McKenzie in Central OR
          lots of brush and not much room for backcast

          So I generally go with a dropper rig and water haul
          Stonefly nymph to get deep fast
          Otherwise, Stonefly, big-ass Drake or chubby Chernobyl for dry
          Hares ear or Prince on the end

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          • steved
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 827

            #20
            white wulff
            golden retriever
            _________
            Hornberg
            _________
            copper john
            zebra midge
            my mono-bloodknot midge
            _________
            x-caddis/madam-x
            spent partridge caddis
            _________
            henry's fork golden stone
            orange stimulator
            chubby chernobyl
            _________
            various hoppers
            Last edited by steved; 07-18-2023, 12:26 PM.

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            • ak_powder_monkey
              In van, down by the river
              • Nov 2002
              • 10962

              #21
              I basically use like 6 things

              Beads (ugh)
              Size 10 purple haze
              Size 10 thunder creek
              Size 10 Battle creek
              Dirty Hoh
              Size 14 chartruse copper john

              Fishing in AK is pretty simple. I do use a variety of other things too, but if fish don't eat those they probably aren't hungry.
              Its not that I suck at spelling, its that I just don't care

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              • lemmycaution
                Registered User
                • Dec 2009
                • 959

                #22
                frenchies
                perdigons
                perdigons
                perdigons

                with trout-big hook=small fish, small hook=big fish
                however, if nothing is happening, mop fly ftw

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                • I've seen black diamonds!
                  ____________________
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 8495

                  #23
                  I've been tying with feathers from my chickens and other found feathers along with hair from my dog. Haven't quite figure out the pics...

                  The Stinky Stone (dog hair, copper wire, rubber legs, ice dub, cdc):

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                  Stormo-the-abnormo (chicken butt feathers for the tail and body, rubber legs, shiny stuffy, ice dub) Named after my oddest chicken, Stormo, who supplied the feathers. This one looks a little funky after being chewed on by a few brown trout, but that just makes me like it more:
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                  The Eh-fly (Canada goose biots and herl from a wad of feathers I found near a bald eagle nest):
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                  Goose biot body parachute adams:
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                  Note: I claim no originality with these patterns, nor talent nor skill. I do claim amusement in catching fish with flies made of stuff that falls off my dog, chickens and other random animals. If you come across any interesting feathers of fur let me know. If it peaks my interest I'll pay for shipping.

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                  • Harry
                    is training for Alpental
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 15524

                    #24
                    ^ wow. That is very cool.
                    "Zee damn fat skis are ruining zee piste !" -Oscar Schevlin

                    "Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters

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                    • Johnny H
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 165

                      #25
                      Those all kill it BD. Well done. I like the Stinky Stone best of all.

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                      • MakersTeleMark
                        ~~~(oYo)~~~
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 19831

                        #26
                        I put some rug hair, probably mine, on a snagging triple barbed rig for shits and giggles and tried to pass it off as the midwestern high runoff trout killer to 2 different uber guides passing by this week. Got some great chuckles, but they wouldn't even barely hold it in their hands. No sense of humor I say.
                        Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
                        This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
                        Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

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                        • I've seen black diamonds!
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8495

                          #27
                          Here is one more I've been working on. I'm calling it the Indicaddis since it makes a good indicator even at moderate sizes. I haven't invented anything terribly new, but I have borrowed some techniques that work pretty well together:
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                          I'm not a fan of the elk hair caddis. I think it floats too high, which is fine on faster water, but toss it into flat water and I get more refusals than I'd like. I strongly prefer lower-floating caddis patterns in those situations. But I'm greedy I want one fly that can hold up a dropper in turbulent little pocket, but still ride low and pretty in the frog water. I also want more visibility, especially in smaller sizes. And I don't want something super difficult to tie. Basically, I want the caddis version of of the Parachute Adams. I'd just tie a parachute caddis, but I find those don't work well in moderate or small sizes.

                          I started with some (not so) rigorous prototype testing:
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                          A clear winner emerged...er...didn't sink (It's really just a CDC + elk hair caddis with a foam-wrapped body and some pink EP fibers so it stands out in the foam line):
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                          Wrap it loosely and tie off. A little super glue let you keep it snug with less tension on the wraps:
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                          Tie in 2-3 CDC puffs on the top of each side (so 4-6 total). This give a more caddis-like profile and lets some of the fibers hang below the hook shank as "legs." You can leave the CDC a bit long and trim (or not) later to match the elk hair you'll put on top:

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                          Make an elk hair caddis wing of the usual type- you need a big head! Otherwise the front of the fly will sink. I think it's easier to trim the hair to length before you tie it on. Otherwise you need to use a razor blade to get the bushy head right:
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                          Tie in EP fibers at the front of the wing, then fold the front half back and wrap a few times. I trim off any elk hair that is lower than the hook shank but leave the CDC that hangs down. I have been trimming the CDC to length so it matches the elk hair, but I doubt it matters:
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                          You don't need a lot of EP fibers. When viewed from the bottom they should be pretty much invisible.
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                          Anyway. It floats low but well, is easy to see, has a good profile, and It catches fish. And it gives me something to do while my back is killing me.

                          Edit to add: make sure you use CDC- friendly floatant. Gink makes CDC wad up. Dry magic works well.
                          Last edited by I've seen black diamonds!; 05-14-2023, 02:01 PM.

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                          • Meadow Skipper
                            Me encanta el país alto
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 16764

                            #28
                            Originally posted by I've seen black diamonds!
                            Here is one more I've been working on. I'm calling it the Indicaddis since it makes a good indicator even at moderate sizes..
                            Indicator? That wasn’t what I expected, but great name.
                            I’m shining like a new dime

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                            • I've seen black diamonds!
                              ____________________
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8495

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Meadow Skipper
                              Indicator? That wasn’t what I expected, but great name.
                              I checked the internet to make sure the name wasn't taken and was surprised to find no one had claimed it. It deserves a better tyer than me...

                              By "indicator" I mean that it holds up well as the dry in a dry-dropper set up, especially compared to other flies that float low, have a fairly small profile and don't use any hackle. And it is easy to see. It won't replace your bobber any time soon, though.

                              Recently I've been doing well fishing a dry dropper on a euro rig. The dry fly fishing has been good near me, but water is high and fast and more often than not I struggle to get a good drift if I put fly line of the water. The spots that are easier to fish see a zillion casts a day while the rest of the river goes mostly untouched. So I'm plunking my flies into pockets a long leader with a long rod with good results. I need a weighted nymph to be able to cast (I'm not casting any fly line at all), but the trout haven't been eating big dries yet. So I need a medium-small fly that can suspend some weight. Also, in the back eddies where a lot of trout are hanging out the fish have plenty of time to check out your fly. It needs to be buggy and not too big.

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                              • stapes
                                it just depends
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 1724

                                #30
                                That’s a winner ISBD! Kinda reminds me of Zimmerman’s Clown Shoe Caddis. Which I believe was invented on similar, if not the same, local water.

                                And I’m w/ MS. I was thinking indica was the inspiration.

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