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  • teleee
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    • Oct 2003
    • 4117

    #16
    Originally posted by neckdeep
    Uhhh....we got a lot of snowpack. HF basin is 10% ahead of average SWE. Early June, that usually means high, off color water on the Henry's and full on runoff everywhere else. Which means almost every guided trip in a 100 miles radius is trying to float the lower Henry's.
    Or the South Fork


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    • neckdeep
      but...head first
      • Nov 2008
      • 5661

      #17
      Early June with high water, I'd guess there are probably 20 anglers on the Henry's for every 1 who is willing to fish the SF above 15000cfs.

      Fortunately for me, that's prime morel season so I can say to hell with that bullshit.

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      • teleee
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        • Oct 2003
        • 4117

        #18
        Originally posted by neckdeep
        Early June with high water, I'd guess there are probably 20 anglers on the Henry's for every 1 who is willing to fish the SF above 15000cfs.

        Fortunately for me, that's prime morel season so I can say to hell with that bullshit.
        Probably true but it sure feels like every swinging dick with a guide boat is on the Southy during high water- probably me just yelling get off my lawn.


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        • neckdeep
          but...head first
          • Nov 2008
          • 5661

          #19
          Originally posted by teleee
          Probably true but it sure feels like every swinging dick with a guide boat is on the Southy during high water- probably me just yelling get off my lawn.


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          Been 3 years since the SF had high water! Runoff peaked at 12000cfs last year, very fishable. This year, maybe a 17000-20000cfs peak, imho

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          • teleee
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            • Oct 2003
            • 4117

            #20
            Originally posted by neckdeep
            Been 3 years since the SF had high water! Runoff peaked at 12000cfs last year, very fishable.
            Yep, very aware since I’m on it every day from May 1st on
            If they manage Palisades well they can keep the flows below 20k - when it get over that shit gets a little spooky


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            • east or bust
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              • Aug 2013
              • 6751

              #21
              Henry's Fork in Mid/end June 2023 Thread

              Re: the HF

              My plan is to be there for the first couple days after opening day (believe it's 6/15), its usually a family outing with my dad and brother. They might stay a bit longer but I can't take more than a few days off.

              Maybe its just how I grew up, but the last couple years of opening weekend haven't been shit compared to the combat fishing on the Delaware back east. It seems like people at least have some manors here.

              High snowmelt year could be interesting, and I've already laid that out there to the fam, but they're still coming. Like most epic dry fly fishing a lot of shit has to line up just right. The beauty up there is that even when it doesn't it's still pretty good.

              Two years ago the hatch was on, but the fucking seagulls were eating more bugs off the water than the fish. Couple that with them jacking the flow up and down and it killed what could have been a truly epic time. Last year the hatch wasn't great, but the seagulls were not nearly as bad and the crowds were virtually non-existent. Had pretty much free reign every night to go wherever we wanted.

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              • schindlerpiste
                Quatsch!
                • Sep 2005
                • 13436

                #22
                I'm using reports from Rob Van Kirk to keep informed about flows: robAThenrysforkDOTorg. The report seems legit and knowledgeable. " water-year precipitation stayed at 112% of average and SWE Snow water equiv.) at 109% of the average annual peak.

                Here is an example of a recent report:
                Headlines

                After a cold dry day, water-year precipitation stayed at 112% of average and SWE at 109% of the average annual peak.
                Precipitation over the next seven days is expected to reach 4 inches of water equivalent in the northeast corner of the watershed.
                Natural streamflow is 69% of average in the upper Henry’s Fork and 57% of average in the Teton River.
                At an outflow of 251 cfs, Island Park Reservoir is 86% full, compared with 83% full on average.
                Details

                Mean temperature yesterday was 9 degrees F below average. With only three days left in the month, March 2023 will end up as the coldest March in the 1989-2023 record. Mean temperature so far this month is almost 8 degrees below average. Water-year precipitation to date stayed at 112% of average. Precipitation for the month of March so far is 149% of average, and 4th highest in the 1989-2023 record. Precipitation over the next three days may push us up to 3rd place, behind 1995 and 1989.

                Snow water equivalent (SWE) dropped to 118% of average for the date but stayed at 109% of the average seasonal peak. Heavy precipitation and cold temperatures are expected for the next week, continuing SWE accumulation at least through that time period. Most of the watershed will receive at least 1 inch of water equivalent, with up to 4 inches in the northeast corner of the watershed. If those amounts materialize, SWE will increase to around 115% of the average annual peak by this time next week and rank in the top 10 of years since 1989.

                Beyond next week, long-range outlooks continue to place high probability on below-average temperatures and give modest odds for above-average precipitation.

                Natural streamflow in the upper Henry’s Fork is 69% of average, as snowmelt usually contributes to increased flows by late March but has not yet done so this year. Likewise, the Teton River usually experiences an increase in flow in late March due to melt of low-elevation snow in Teton Valley. That has not yet happened, leaving streamflow in the Teton River at less than 60% of average. These low natural flow figures reflect a combination of very low baseflows inherited from the drought that began in July 2020 and delayed melt due to very cold temperatures so far this spring. Current snowpack is far enough above average to offset low baseflows, and I expect April-September natural streamflow to be a little above average watershed-wide.

                At an outflow of 251 cfs, Island Park Reservoir is 86% full, compared with 83% full on average. The reservoir is on track to reach the target of 126,000 ac-ft (93% full) by the average ice-off date of April 28.

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                Watershed SWE
                Teton River above Crosscut Canal
                Island Park Reservoir inflow/outflow: 15-minute data
                Island Park volume: 15-minute data
                Island Park Reservoir volume: water year
                Streamflow through Box Canyon

                I am still planning on being on the river in early June.
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                • neckdeep
                  but...head first
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5661

                  #23


                  The 2022 Season on the Harriman RanchIn 2022, Ranch fishing was the worst I have experienced over 40 consecutive years and more than 14,800 hours of angling and guiding. An index of how recently a major part of the decline has taken place is provided by the fact my clients and I were on the...
                  Last edited by neckdeep; 03-31-2023, 01:21 PM.

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                  • schwerty
                    Satisfied
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 6411

                    #24
                    I was askin if this was happening mainly because of the snowpack. I also have to plan.

                    There will be something to fish…somewhere.agree with ND tho…every guide boat around will be on the fishable sections.

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                    • neckdeep
                      but...head first
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5661

                      #25
                      We're probably going to hit 12% seasonal average by the end of the week. It's going to be a high water year. Even good old reliables like the Firehole and Warm rivers will be high and off color.
                      Last edited by neckdeep; 04-13-2023, 10:02 AM.

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                      • schwerty
                        Satisfied
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 6411

                        #26
                        But the soft hackle or other similar techniques could be good until august over there.
                        Quite honestly, I don’t care about catchin’ if there are folks here gathering for laughs, party favors and good grub.
                        I might suggest it be pushed ahead 2-14 days or pulled back a month-ish. But again, if fun and laughing can be had we can get over poor catching.


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                        • neckdeep
                          but...head first
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5661

                          #27
                          Originally posted by schwerty
                          But the soft hackle or other similar techniques could be good until august over there.
                          For sure. Lots of fish will be pressed up against the banks looking for nymphs and worms. If high sticking nymphs in the shallows at point blank range is your thing, theres plenty of fish to be caught at one's boot tips. All you need is about 1 foot visibility to catch fish on the bottom.

                          There's options but early june high water gives you about the most limited set of options of the season and you're one heavy rainstorm away from flood stage, like what happened last june.

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                          • neckdeep
                            but...head first
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5661

                            #28
                            Another big dump for the Henry's basin. Its going to take a flash flooding event in May to clear this much snowpack by early June. Rivers, even the tailwaters, could be fishing between poor to unfishable.

                            Bring your lake gear and a boat. And a big net. Henry's Lake still has monster fish.

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                            • neckdeep
                              but...head first
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5661

                              #29
                              Runoff is finally coming down. No more storage space in the lakes. Lower river is blown out and will be unfishable for now. Appx. 70% of snowpack remains.

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                              • tgapp
                                Registered Loser
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 4758

                                #30
                                Originally posted by neckdeep
                                Runoff is finally coming down. No more storage space in the lakes. Lower river is blown out and will be unfishable for now. Appx. 70% of snowpack remains.
                                That's what's happening here too in Utah. Damn. I was really hoping to get on the Henry's Fork this June. Unrelated question - what non-blown out rivers should I look at exploring this summer?

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