Smith Beta?

[Phall]

Just tagged on to a Smith float 4/19-22. Hoping we'll catch it pre-runoff and have decent fishing, but looking for some must have suggestions for the fly box.

[teleee]

Congratulations that is a definite must do trip! We pulled a September permit for this year as well, keeping my fingers crossed for good flows. Should be ok since it is after the irrigation levels drop.
I floated it about 8 years ago in May and it was a black wooley bugger all day, every day... Sorry but that is seriously the only fly we used and we slayed em.

[Row Jimmy]

That April window on the Smith can be hit or miss as far as fishing and the weather go. Go prepared and you will have a great time regardless.

As far as bugs, standard freestone stuff will get you going.
Nymphs: Rubber legs( pats, jj's, bitch creeks etc) various color/size, buggers dead drifted-black, olive, brown, Zonkers dead drifted, Prince stuff, worms, PT, lightning bugs etc.
Streamers; Sparkle Minnows, JJ Special (dead drifted or twitched), Buggers, Home Invader etc.
Dries: Skwala Stones- smaller chubbies, BWO- para Adams or Purple Haze will cover you.

The Smith fishes well subsurface when it has color as long as it is not rising dramatically. If high and off color, get out of the boat and fish soft, inside water.

If you have other questions let me know. I have done close to 100 Smith trips, so I'm pretty familiar with that stretch. Glad to help out if I can.

[teleee]

If you have other questions let me know. I have done close to 100 Smith trips, so I'm pretty familiar with that stretch. Glad to help out if I can.

I hate to ask this and it makes me feel dirty, but how is the cell service these days? Current life circumstances dictate that I stay connected to the outside world so I have been trying to figure out if I need a sat phone for the trip...

[Phall]

Teleee,
The garmin inReach mini is a bad ass piece of equipment. I've been planning on picking one up for my hunting adventures. Allows you to text via your phone to the outside world.

[teleee]

Teleee,
The garmin inReach mini is a bad ass piece of equipment. I've been planning on picking one up for my hunting adventures. Allows you to text via your phone to the outside world.

Cool! That might be a good option!

[Row Jimmy]

Teleee, cell service still non existent from before Camp Baker until you get back to Ulm. Sat Phone is a good option if you need to stay in touch with work/fam etc.

[skifishbum]

That April window on the Smith can be hit or miss as far as fishing and the weather go. Go prepared and you will have a great time regardless.

As far as bugs, standard freestone stuff will get you going.
Nymphs: Rubber legs( pats, jj's, bitch creeks etc) various color/size, buggers dead drifted-black, olive, brown, Zonkers dead drifted, Prince stuff, worms, PT, lightning bugs etc.
Streamers; Sparkle Minnows, JJ Special (dead drifted or twitched), Buggers, Home Invader etc.
Dries: Skwala Stones- smaller chubbies, BWO- para Adams or Purple Haze will cover you.

The Smith fishes well subsurface when it has color as long as it is not rising dramatically. If high and off color, get out of the boat and fish soft, inside water.

If you have other questions let me know. I have done close to 100 Smith trips, so I'm pretty familiar with that stretch. Glad to help out if I can.

can I haz a job?

[Row Jimmy]

SFB, I don't do the hiring, but if you are serious I can put you in contact with someone who does. We usually need some peeps.

PM if ya want or your pops has my digits.

[t-the-east]

We did the Smith about 12 years ago. Very hit or miss mid April, we went around the same time as you are going. Bring plenty of layers. I remember buggers working well for us too. Such a great float

[teleee]

Teleee, cell service still non existent from before Camp Baker until you get back to Ulm. Sat Phone is a good option if you need to stay in touch with work/fam etc.

I kind of figured you were going to say that. Sat phone it is. Phall dress warm! Row Jimmy, what is your thoughts on the flow in late September?

[Row Jimmy]

teleee, September trips are awesome if you have the water. If you are going in rafts you can launch with flows as low as 160-180 cfs. In a hard boat you want 350-400 and it is still boney. Check Smith flows below Eagle Creek as that is just below the Camp Baker put in. Unfortunately fall flows don't bump up with the end of irrigation as much as they used to. This is due to more pivot irrigation and elimination old school flood irrigation upstream.
As far as fishing, it can be incredible. Dries, streamers, nymphs will all work well. The water will likely be clear and the fish concentrated in the prime water.
There is a good snowpack in the Smith basin currently. Hope for a cool damp summer in central MT to keep flows good all summer.
I hope you get to do your September trip. That is a special time on the Smith.

[Phall]

Thanks all. Really excited for this adventure.

[Harry]

I have done the Smith several times. April can be excellent, or it can be a nightmare. About 10 or 15 years ago we were 2 days away from putting in when a deep freeze hit and the river froze over. We were not allowed to launch and National Guard helicopters went in to pull out the stranded floaters.

We ended up going over to Craig and fished the Mo for a week instead.

[Phall]

we're crossing fingers for good weather, but are a hearty bunch. If we get in a situation like that I'll retreat to my buddies house in Ennis and drink away the sorrows.