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05-13-2024, 09:55 AM #2626
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05-13-2024, 11:07 AM #2627
Wasatch 23/24 Stoke Thread: Red Snake Coverage coming at you live from tgapp's fartba
For sure it’s a dangerous game. That’s why it takes discipline to stay vigilant and conservative when making decisions. I’m not saying that I would never fuck up but we need to constantly question our decisions and motivation in avalanche terrain.
I’ve been reading about Munter reduction and it’s a really simple way of mitigating risk.
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05-13-2024, 01:02 PM #2628
Yeah, I was listening to the podcast that phall linked and I had to check the release date, thinking it was maybe a 10+ year old re-release when they talk about ~30-40% adoption. I have a hard time thinking of anyone who doesn't ski with one in winter. Which is interesting given the mid winter CO skiing is typically in terrain where airbags are less useful. Looking only at the photos, I'd agree with altacoup that both these slides look very survivable with an airbag. My trigger is usually stowed on ascents but it's also quite rare that I ascend avalanche terrain. I'll take any route around, even if it's longer. Even later in the year, I don't like being exposed to objective dangers like rockfall in a couloir for hours if I have another safer option.
I've also been surprised in some of my travels at the lack of adoption in some areas with radios. I'm pretty much at the point of calling it beacon, probe, shovel, radio as non-negotiable. As Covert said in his old Slide podcast episodes, radios are the one piece of avalanche gear that can prevent an avalanche from even occurring.
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05-13-2024, 02:53 PM #2629
Not sure where you are going with this one - I use it when my I cannot adequately assess the factors of the day or a problem is 'widespread'. If that's the case - typically Ill stay home or hit SB
Let me be clear, I own one, I do use it but seldom. I'm just stating I use in certain scenarios.You took too much man, too much, too much
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05-13-2024, 03:12 PM #2630
Anyways, per sfotex's request and I owe him a few... Heres some stoke.
(took a long internet / social media break over the winter - I strongly encourage it)
Saturday went up and skied the most contrived ski line in the Wasatch - definitely interesting to say the least. An adventure in its own right. That and the 2 thunderstorms, wind, and getting pelted with graupel throughout periods of sun
Pulled and reset a few pins on her, so feel good about some of them haha -
Inching closer to finishing the Chuting Gallery although I'm having a hard time mustering the thought of the Pfieff NE couloir haha.Last edited by D-Roc; 05-13-2024 at 03:40 PM.
You took too much man, too much, too much
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05-14-2024, 08:26 AM #2631Registered
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I guess I don't understand your logic here as a "math person." The linked article shows a fairly significant survival rate for air bag carriers in both studies. How does that persuade you to not carry one?
I get the air bag bravado thing, but the same could be said for carrying a beacon or even wearing a helmet. Absolutely, education, terrain assessment, etc come first, but if there is a device that can statistically reduce fatalities, why should it be vilified? Is it really to keep your assessment more on point or do you just not want the weight?
And to be clear, I'm just trying to understand your general thought process here because it seems contradictory; not a personal critique or an assessment of the Big Willow accident.
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05-14-2024, 10:20 AM #2632
not from the wasatch, but this thread could use some more stoke - vibes to all affected in the LP tragedy
had a great time chasing corn with Fleaches, I'll cross post some of these pics in the appropriate regional thread
ticked a few classics, crossed a few streams, chilled in a hotspring, all together very well worth the short drive from Utardia
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05-14-2024, 10:50 AM #2633
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05-14-2024, 11:39 AM #2634
Stanburys?^
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05-14-2024, 11:42 AM #2635
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05-14-2024, 11:49 AM #2636
Yeah bloody. The east side is tits . Stansburies also tits. Tits everywhere. We are lucky.
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05-14-2024, 11:52 AM #2637
Looks like Pinner on Laurel and Bloody Coulior on Bloody
You took too much man, too much, too much
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05-14-2024, 12:07 PM #2638
God I wish we got pinner, unfortunately the trailhead wasn't open unfortunately.
Not trying to put their zone on blast but Bloody is well enough known that posting about it isn't going to change any of the traffic there.
Really cool zone, just wanted to bring some stoke to my favorite thread here since fatalities are the ultimate anti stoke - D-roc, well done!!
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05-14-2024, 12:12 PM #2639
I just re read my post and did not articulate my point well at all. Restart and my apologies
To your statement above, I think an airbag is a weak insurance policy against bravado, it doesn't replace good decision making, that was the point I was trying to make (post responsibly and not stoned fyi) - I have seen and heard folks at the top of lines 'you should go first you have the airbag' as if its sending a guinea pig down in order to guarantee safe passage to the others in their group.
I am for the use of safety equipment and I don't mind the weight - I systemically carry a 30m rad line for bollard rappels, slope cuts, hip belays to test and evaluate slopes (another reason I prefer top down if I can)
Airbags are a tool and you need to use the right tool for the job. They don't outsmart a deep PWL as an example. Overall they help reduce trauma when deployed in time in objective hazard terrain (bag dependent), generate a larger surface area to probe strike, give enhanced visibility to rescuers during event (pin point), can enhance air pocket reserves, and increase flotation. Definitely pro airbag, I choose the tool based on what I need. Not going to use it during a diurnal snowpack mission for instance.
TGapp = nice pics, love that zone especially the heated bathroom at the playground near the hotsprings lolYou took too much man, too much, too much
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05-14-2024, 03:49 PM #2640Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.
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05-14-2024, 06:25 PM #2641
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05-15-2024, 09:46 AM #2642
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05-15-2024, 12:32 PM #2643Registered User
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Anybody need or want a Snowbird Freeloader Pass for their kid (18 and under) - LMK details in the next few days. Cheers!
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05-15-2024, 03:46 PM #2644
As a California skier who shows up in UT to ski pow mid-winter, seems fair for the UT crew to get after it on the east-side in the spring. Besides, the barrier to entry for all the fun stuff out there is high enough that it'll never get too crowded. Glad you all got some fun turns!
Three fundamentals of every extreme skier, total disregard for personal saftey, amphetamines, and lots and lots of malt liquor......-jack handy
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05-15-2024, 07:45 PM #2645
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05-15-2024, 09:35 PM #2646Registered User
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A little corn in the morning.
A little rain in the afternoon.
Must be spring.
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05-17-2024, 04:39 PM #2647
Any new reports out there? Looks like a possible refreeze tonight? Debating searching for the elusive corn in the am.
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05-19-2024, 11:04 AM #2648
PSA
If you bought a preferred parking pass at Snowbird last season they charged you sales tax, it was supposed to be included. If you call up the ticket office they will reimburse you the $65.18. Kinda shitty they make you find out and call instead of just reimbursing everyone.
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05-19-2024, 03:46 PM #2649
Last 2 days at the bird have been excellent spring skiing. Soft, yet no sticky snow all day long. If it rains the next 2 days and then is followed up by some freezing nights, next weekend could be really good.
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05-20-2024, 12:25 AM #2650
Really learned from and appreciate the discussion of the early May incident over the past few pages. Having a hot head and a sharp tongue, I think hard, long, and often about how to communicate "I think the situation we are in is unsafe and scary and we need to reconsider" and how to differentiate that from "I strongly disagree with you about this philosophical topic we are having a conversation about but has no bearing in our immediate wellbeing."
Kept my mouth shut about a safety issue at work last summer because I knew it would just be inconvenient and piss people off and that most likely everything would be OK. Everything did not turn out OK but luckily everyone walked away. Decided after that it would hurt less for 1000 people to think I was an asshole than to observe a few sets of grieving parents because I didn't want to ruffle feathers.
Maybe I (we) are all just getting older? but the introspection and thoughtful debate on this forum and in these threads are just so much better now than what I recall in the early years. Thanks, yall
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