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04-26-2024, 10:26 AM #51
Van. AWD vans are prized. "Great Price" on autotrader for an AWD Sienna with less than 60k is 27k. For a 2015. New starts at 41k for the stripper model. Unfortunately people have figured out that minivans are gold.
You have a lot of good suggestions here, I'd just suggest you go out and test drive them to see what gets your jumblies rumbling in a good way, then take that shortlist and work from there.
That said, write down what's most important IN ORDER so you can prioritize (and help us find stuff):
Space, Off road capability, reliability, efficiency, cool factor, on road manners.
We're talking across a pretty wide range of sizes, styles and core vehicle architectures here, so getting a read on that will help.
For example, if you said:
Space, Off road capability, reliability as your top 3, Land Cruiser is your ride. If you said space, efficiency and on-road manners, more likely an AWD sienna.
As much as I get slagged for it in the wagon thread for not being as cool as an Audi/Merc, I'm definitely enjoying my '24 Outback XT as it has good space and enough ground clearance to not care about much of anything.
For the desert, I'd probably end up in a Land Cruiser or some kinda of Truck abomination as I'd want the ability to carry spares and not have to worry about sand/rockcrawling with fuckoff large tires while having the hard shell because I'm a woods guy who's afraid of outdoor desert things.
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04-26-2024, 10:27 AM #52
Volvo XC70 3rd gen. ('08-'16) ACRES of real estate in the back of those things (I'm 6' and slept in the back many times with an air mattress with room to spare. Bomber construction. Post 2007 angle gear fixes taken care of. The most comfortable seats you'll ever sit in, and if you get a T6, 300hp/300ftlb.
I still call it The Jake.
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04-26-2024, 10:27 AM #53
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04-26-2024, 10:31 AM #54
Might check the inventory at AutoTrek (broker): https://www.autotrek.com/inventory
We've bought a couple cars from them and the prices have been decent, the vehicles in good shape, and the whole process was really easy.
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04-26-2024, 10:41 AM #55
1998 suburban.
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04-26-2024, 10:43 AM #56Registered User
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93-94 Pathfinder?
Black, manual, SE trim
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04-26-2024, 10:47 AM #57
If can't make it happen for $15k it ain't gonna happen. I'm not sure my bank account or my mechanic in Granby are gonna vibe within aging Euro Sled. Maybe I'm wrong about that?
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04-26-2024, 11:00 AM #58Registered User
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Gx470 all day if the 460 predator grill is too controversial.
Timing belt & wp @ 90k, add an Eibach 2" lift to lose the airbags, check the front axle boots for tears and the front A arms for clunks and it will bee good to go 300k miles.
Get a non navigation if you can for an easy modern stereo upgrade, but they do have Tesla iPad type screens to modernize the built in nav style now too.
2uz V8 is a great engine
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04-26-2024, 11:14 AM #59
What vehicle for someone too scared to buy a Land Rover?
I’m a GX470 owner - so biased. But yeah - that’s the answer.
Thinking out of the box.
Outback with a lift?
Sienna or Odyssey with a lift?
Anecdotal but my BIL has the previous generation Cherokee Trailhawk. It’s been a stereotypical Stellantis. Great for 100k but now he’s been dumping money into, in and out of the shop…
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04-26-2024, 11:17 AM #60
Forest Service / Nat Parks fleet GSA auction Suburban….
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04-26-2024, 11:19 AM #61"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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04-26-2024, 11:21 AM #62
I think I was unclear. I can't go everywhere I want to in the Transit Connect. I've gone most places that the Transit Connect can go already, at least places reasonably nearby, hence again thinking about another vehicle. I will drive the TC on roads most people would think twice about, but its limit pretty quickly once you start to get ruts or even center high roads. And even some of the roads we go on now would be much more comfortable in even an Outback level vehicle. I go out to one of our favorite camping/kayak launch spots less often than I might just because it's a punishing and skill necessary drive in the van, but just a bit bumpy for our friends in their Subarus and Tundras.
It's a Transit Connect, not a Transit. Actual minivan basically. It's only 190 in long. It is as space efficient as it possibly could be in the footprint, but the larger SUVs aren't that much off it. It has 106 cu feet of space with the seats all folded (though you probably get 5-10 more if you take out the third row like we do on our longer trips). The Discovery has 75 with the rear seats in, the 4runner has 89 without rear seats, the new model Tahoes 120. I suspect I will miss the space efficiency and ease of loading though. The van has a low load floor and it's nice and big and square. For our big trips, we basically just pack everything in stacking gasket boxes and toss it in. I would also miss the ability to just easily roll by XL mountain bike in with just a slight lean and with the wheels all on. But for the longer trips, we do have more space now as sadly our dog passed, so we only need one of the two sets of seats up in the second row.
I've driven a couple of them. Not the Land Rover, but I've driven a 4Runner, Tundras (which I imagine drive a bit like the Sequoia), a good number of Jeeps (though not the Grand Cherokee) and Subarus.
Ha, not really "off roading". Just lots of miles on sometimes questionable dirt roads. But you're right. It's not the most comfortable way to do it. On the bright side, after one of these drives, my wife is always onboard with the plan to get a higher car with better suspension. On the other hand, my wife has worked pretty extensively in rural, Himalayan India. We have been on some wild roads in FWD subcompacts driven by madmen.
Edit: I was going to include some photos of the type of roads the van is fine on, but would be more comfortable in other cars, but apparently the mods are still doing their thing with Jer and haven't gotten around to fixing image embedding.
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04-26-2024, 11:26 AM #63
Touché - thx
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04-26-2024, 11:33 AM #64
I was wondering this too. They definitely aren't under the radar where I am and for any substantially lower than new pricing, you're looking at 100k+ and often notably more than that. I really think the "soccer mom dumps capable vehicle" sweet spot is now the Y62 Armada/QX80 since the former went onto the Patrol platform that every Aussie mag pits against the Land Cruiser.
Edit: Actually looking at them now, the GXs are a bit better price wise than when I last looked. Not cheap, but not absolutely insane anymore. Still extra terrible mileage for a midsized vehicle, but getting closer to my price/mileage/capability desire point.
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04-26-2024, 11:33 AM #65
Truck w/ topper, dood. Pick whatever brand makes you happy and put on good susp & tires.
Drive most anywhere, haul all the shit you want, and still stand your bike up in the back.
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04-26-2024, 11:38 AM #66
Would not be my choice, but there is a 2003 G-Class is available on facebook's Park City On-line yard sale
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04-26-2024, 11:39 AM #67
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04-26-2024, 11:49 AM #68
I missed a chance to pick one up at a good price 5-6 years ago when I was looking for a third car. I still regret it.
Ha, I drive a 318ti and a Transit Connect. I'd love an XK or F-Type Jag someday (as you can see, my attraction to bad car decisions is both on and off road) as I think they're gorgeous, but for something like this, the vehicle is basically a tool to me, so I'll tolerate ugly.
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04-26-2024, 11:56 AM #70
I definitely want a full sized spare, but I'm not really rock crawling, so GIANT tires aren't really a priority. There are definitely a lot of fun spots to use them here, but a lot of our drives/adventures just end up covering a lot of miles, with only the last chunk being on rough roads, so I want to keep things balanced. Your Outback is pretty balanced for that. I also looked at Siennas with lifts, but I wanted the hybrid version and wanted to hear a bit more how they worked over time. I'm annoyed that Toyota dropped the base AWD version, but they were basically impossible to get anyway as you can't special order with Toyota and they were making very few when I was looking. I actually didn't love the interior of the new Siennas for carrying gear. It's too sculpted which makes the space harder to use and there was a big lip with the rear hatch that meant that you couldn't slide things in and out. Googling photos now, the lip mostly goes away if you fold the rear seats down, I guess.
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04-26-2024, 12:00 PM #71
If you buy Brit, be sure to stock up on replacement smoke for the wiring system.
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04-26-2024, 12:16 PM #72Registered User
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04-26-2024, 12:25 PM #73
He's why the Brits drink warm beer.
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04-26-2024, 12:32 PM #74
Lol, it's like they only came in two colors: white (80%), and black (20%)
What I was going to say. Transit to mid-suv would be leaving a lot of stuff at home.
Yeah, I've been looking for the elusive one owner/straight/rust-free/full service history Lexus unicorn here in the pnw for about a decade without success.
They are. From every angle.
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04-26-2024, 12:35 PM #75
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