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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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04-13-2024, 12:55 PM #14926
My Ski ADHD is a problem lol. That said but hey at least I don’t gouge on price when I re sale . I really liked the 186 but once I really got moving on them I wanted more ski. I’m a big boy at 6’1 220 husky fit and with some pretty good improvement in skiing this year I felt the 191 would be worth a try!
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04-13-2024, 12:56 PM #14927
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04-13-2024, 07:25 PM #14928Registered User
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Always happy to stoke the fire Kim
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04-13-2024, 09:56 PM #14929
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04-14-2024, 09:17 PM #14930
I had been feeling like my '23 bgt 110's were flapping around like dps wailer clownshoes. They seem like theyre longer and softer in the tips than my '18 bg asym and my old steeple 108's. Went ahead and mounted the bgt's +1.2. Immediately felt 100x better. I wont be able to test them for tip float until next year but im not worried. Im pretty sure theyll be fine and the tips wont be diving. +1.2 made for a great day today. I had been chaulking up all the instability to the light weight of them. Theyre still not stock bg super damp but going forward made them way more stable. No more apprehension just charge out of the gate. Psyched that worked. Ive felt something was missing
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04-15-2024, 08:21 AM #14931Registered User
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I have my stock core 187 110s at +1 and have never had any issues with tip dive. You should be good on that front.
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04-15-2024, 08:34 AM #14932
Good to know. Thanks
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04-15-2024, 01:59 PM #14933
Speaking of the tour layups…personally have felt like my WD102 Tours don’t have that same ON3P feel…which is kind of a bummer.
Not sure if a 50/50 would fix it or if the full bamboo core is needed.
I love my WD102 in the regular layup. Wondering how I can get that similar feel at 1700g…maybe it’s not possible
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04-15-2024, 02:41 PM #14934
I think you get the stock lay up with the 50/50 just with thinner base and edges. I think thats how it goes. 50/50 bases and edges should be as thick as the big manufacturers and better quality. I think theyd feel very similar to stock builds. Im now out east so ive been thinking 50/50 as well. Out west most of the pow days i didnt feel the snowpack base when touring so ultra light was fine. Out east more often thzn not j feel the base under the new snow so im thinking the 50/50 might be the way. Also smaller climbs dont make ul skis as crucial. Im pretty psyched on my remount on the bgt though. I put insets in the old holes, in case i get a smaller bsl >1200g boot, and ill put inserts in the current mount eventually. That +1.2 really settled them down. Maybe i should do an early lap before it softens up to see how that goes.
Id like to add a wd 102/100(i think the new ones are 100 waist not sure) in the mix for my spring touring ski also. Not sure on 50/50 or tour build
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04-15-2024, 03:14 PM #14935Registered User
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04-15-2024, 03:23 PM #14936
50/50 Layup - bamboo-pawlonia hybrid core, shaves an average of ~200g per ski from Stock, and uses our full spec 2.5x2.5mm edge + corresponding base thickness. Best for those who tour <50% of their time, and want dual-purpose for touring + inbounds use.
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04-15-2024, 03:38 PM #14937
Ahh i see. I dont think id consider that for inbounds. My steeple 102 and 108 with pintech bindings skied the dream inbounds but they werent real light. Maybe the shaved thinner steeple layup with thinner base and edges i could see being a nice 50/50 option. Its really rocky around my new local and low snow year but my bg and bg tour bases and edges have allowed me to have a bunch of skiing that people were avoiding or blowing up their skis. Ive been amazed how little the scratches have been. My buddy on his praxis and me on the on3p's gave us a bunch of amazing days that we didnt have to cross others turns because we knew we had the secret weapons. I bet the thinner base and edge would be fine with the base/edge materials they use. I could see a 177 wd 102 with steeple thinner edge/base being close to 1700g
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04-15-2024, 04:07 PM #14938Registered User
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Ya, it always surprised me that they went with the full fat edge and base and kept the touring core for 50/50, I would have thought they would have done the opposite. A lot of the magic in an on3p is the energy you get from the bamboo core. A great core and “industry norm” edge and base sounds more enticing to me. Especially cause aren’t a lot of their park athletes in 50/50 cores? Maybe they save more weight going this route
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04-15-2024, 04:25 PM #14939
I’m just not sure if their bases or cores are what contribute most to the feel in the tour vs 50/50 vs stock.
I will say, I put a pretty massive base gouge in my tour skis on like day 3…not really holding up to my experience with their stock layup.
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04-15-2024, 06:27 PM #14940
It has to be the stock cores. Nothing compares to them. No doubt bases and edges can be ripped to tge core on any ski on the right rock and/or tge right force but i immediately took mine off a couple times thinking ive really done it now. Only to find a few small scratches. My mfree 99's havent explored the untracked near as much and theyre a mess. Ive had to drip a few sticks of ptex and 5 or 6 poly patches in them. Although those dynastars are vastly improved over my old rossi bandits and dynastar coupe du mondes. Look at a rock from a distance of 50ft and a section of edge and base would immediately fall out. It got so i just skied the coup d mondes missing 8" of edge underfoot on all edges at lake louise. Last run down ladies dh manmade snow at the end of the day was sketchy af. As much as i like my mfree99 , on3p is just waaaay more durable. Add in bamboo dampness and on3p shapes and its a no brainer. Im set on avoiding the bic pen skis of the big manufacturers
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04-15-2024, 06:27 PM #14941
ON3P SKIS Discussion
I’m confused. Are steeples a lighter core with heavy edges, base; or “rounder core” with lighter edges and base.
And how do they differ from the bgt110?
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04-15-2024, 07:45 PM #14942
I think steeples had full edge and base and the cores were basically a shaved down stock core so the cores were a tad thinner saving a little weight. Ive heard some say a rounder flex but i found mine relatively close to my stock bg. Bg tours are proper light weight touring ski. I think my tours are more than 1lb lighter
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04-15-2024, 09:53 PM #14943
Steeples were a thinner core profile, and I think lighter weight glass. Standard base/edge.
Correct current Hybrid are tour core with stock base/edge. I skied a hybrid BG118 inbounds a ton 22-23 season and thought they were pretty good.
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04-15-2024, 11:55 PM #14944
I'd love to test out regular, 50/50, tour back-to-back. I also haven't skied my tours inbounds yet. I do love the Woodsman shape though, and my WD102 are out-of-my-cold-dead-hands kinda ski. Especially on a low tide season like this.
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04-16-2024, 03:48 AM #14945Registered User
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I posted this post from NS in this thread a few years ago, but will repost it as it is relevant for the last few posts and as it is a wealth of knowledge:
Originally Posted by Caveman = ON3P employee / core guyOriginally Posted by Caveman = ON3P employee / core guy
I've skied woods108tours, wood110s stock and 50/50 layup. The two latter feels more similar imho, the former is noticably lighter.
I think the 50/50 core as is makes a ton of sense - added durability. A lot of the damp feel comes from the thicker edges and bases.
And yeah, Steeples are touring skis in name only. They are realistically better labeled as slightly rounder flexed slightly lighter soft snow focused resort skis. They will still be heavier than a lot of other brands' dedicated resort skis
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04-16-2024, 10:52 AM #14946
I think a 50/50 version could be in my future for sure.
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04-16-2024, 10:57 AM #14947
I'm posting up my 182cm Woods 110 Tours later today. Just FYI since we're talking layup/core.
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04-16-2024, 04:44 PM #14948
Not sure if this worked but this base is incredible! Apparently, it was supposed to be a top sheet and got printed as a base!
Also found out this guy is a bit of a tweener between the current BG and the 1.0. Has a lower camber than the current BG, with the 1.0 dimensions. Excited to get on these in some slush this weekend at Frank!
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04-16-2024, 05:58 PM #14949Registered User
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04-16-2024, 06:02 PM #14950
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